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Degrada, mas para terrarios deserticos é bem fixe, falo por mim, fiz uns apoios para o tronco do meu DB e até agora está bom, ja tenho ai uns 3 meses a vontade! Também fiz uma toca para geckos!Brake Escreveu:é isto? isto conheço, e isso nao se degrada com a agua?
Não seja por isso, eu sou apologista de chamar os bois pelos nomes, ou seja, "burro velho não aprende línguas e o outro atirar pérolas a porcos. Nem um nem outro a mim servem, é que sou velha mas continuo a adorar aprender, aliás aprendo diariamente, logo a questão das pérolas e dos porcos a mim também não se coloca, é que eu sou daquelas a quem as pedras não caem em saco rôto.Thorgarth Escreveu:Ditados há muitos cá pelo nosso país.... uns metem burros ao barulho outros porcos, e uma substancia segregada pelas ostras.
Em qualquer caso em relação a substratos para DBs areia, argila (com uma camada de pó de argila misturada com areia para a camada superior), ou mesmo um substrato com húmus misturado com uma percentagem muito alta de areia e terriço de folhas para simular o chão dos bosques arídos onde também habitam são uma boa opção, se bem que esta eu deixava para quando fossem já granditos.
Quanto ao resto são quase mitos urbanos...
Wrong!Thorgarth Escreveu:Quanto ao resto são quase mitos urbanos...
General substrates that you want to avoid putting in your reptile's enclosure include:
* Calcium based sand
* Vita sand
* Play sand
* Dirt
* Bark
* Woodchips
* Walnut shells
* Corn cob
Remember that the majority of reptiles that are sold as dessert species are not dessert in the terms of naturally housed on sand in the wild.
in http://www.petadvice.com.au/reptile-impaction/
Impaction
Bearded dragon impaction is probably the most feared health risk for dragon owners. This is probably one of the most talked about subject that I have seen, related to bearded dragon health. Fear of impaction is the very reason the subject of bearded dragon substrate is so controversial.
in http://www.ukbeardeddragons.co.uk/health.htm
Não são simplesmente mitos urbanos, já segui de perto um caso de impactação num dragão juvenil que ia morrendo devido a substrato solto e acredita, é um risco real, principalmente em indivíduos jovens. Mesmo em adultos, não deixa de ser um risco.Dangerous Substrates
Another major contributor to impaction is the ingestion of substrate. Many particulate substrates can pose a risk. In many cases, Calci-Sand has been reported to have caused impaction. However, it is not alone; any type of pellets (such as Rabbit Pellets), pebble-like substrates, and several dried plant-based substrates are also known to present a high risk. Play sand can also cause impaction if it is ingested on a regular basis, or if a great deal of it is ingested at one time.
The packaging of many substrates claim that they are completely digestible. However, please be very wary of claims from the manufacturers of these products. Unlike products for human consumption or use, the safety of products used for our pets is under no such regulation.
Before trusting a substrate, do some research to discover what those with lots of personal experience think about it. Many calcium-based substrates (including, but not limited to Calci-Sand) not only claim that their substrate is digestible, but also claim that it is beneficial for your bearded dragon's health if they do ingest it, because it is a source of calcium for them. However, a bearded dragon may be inclined to eat more of this substrate than is good for them, if they feel a need for additional calcium in their diet. And they are NOT digestible, as they claim. Combine the difficulty of digestion with the increased likelihood of ingestion, and you may have yourself a very sick bearded dragon.
in http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/
O amigo angelico, ainda te das ao trabalho??jmangelico Escreveu:Wrong!Thorgarth Escreveu:Quanto ao resto são quase mitos urbanos...
General substrates that you want to avoid putting in your reptile's enclosure include:
* Calcium based sand
* Vita sand
* Play sand
* Dirt
* Bark
* Woodchips
* Walnut shells
* Corn cob
Remember that the majority of reptiles that are sold as dessert species are not dessert in the terms of naturally housed on sand in the wild.
in http://www.petadvice.com.au/reptile-impaction/Impaction
Bearded dragon impaction is probably the most feared health risk for dragon owners. This is probably one of the most talked about subject that I have seen, related to bearded dragon health. Fear of impaction is the very reason the subject of bearded dragon substrate is so controversial.
in http://www.ukbeardeddragons.co.uk/health.htmNão são simplesmente mitos urbanos, já segui de perto um caso de impactação num dragão juvenil que ia morrendo devido a substrato solto e acredita, é um risco real, principalmente em indivíduos jovens. Mesmo em adultos, não deixa de ser um risco.Dangerous Substrates
Another major contributor to impaction is the ingestion of substrate. Many particulate substrates can pose a risk. In many cases, Calci-Sand has been reported to have caused impaction. However, it is not alone; any type of pellets (such as Rabbit Pellets), pebble-like substrates, and several dried plant-based substrates are also known to present a high risk. Play sand can also cause impaction if it is ingested on a regular basis, or if a great deal of it is ingested at one time.
The packaging of many substrates claim that they are completely digestible. However, please be very wary of claims from the manufacturers of these products. Unlike products for human consumption or use, the safety of products used for our pets is under no such regulation.
Before trusting a substrate, do some research to discover what those with lots of personal experience think about it. Many calcium-based substrates (including, but not limited to Calci-Sand) not only claim that their substrate is digestible, but also claim that it is beneficial for your bearded dragon's health if they do ingest it, because it is a source of calcium for them. However, a bearded dragon may be inclined to eat more of this substrate than is good for them, if they feel a need for additional calcium in their diet. And they are NOT digestible, as they claim. Combine the difficulty of digestion with the increased likelihood of ingestion, and you may have yourself a very sick bearded dragon.
in http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/
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