Os "Snuff films" dos "amiguinhos" dos animais

[casadiscaes]

Quem não se lembra do "documentário" Earthlings ou do célebre video chinês dos texugos a serem esfolados vivos? quantos a "amiguinhos" dos animais não propalam os, como lhes hei-de chamar, "filmes" da peta.tv como a pura verdade e andam a enviar por e-mail ou a colocar nos fora da internet tais videos como verdades sacramentais... pois bem, a Fur Comission EUA (organismo que representa a maioria dos produtores de pele) fez um levantamento sobre a credibilidade dos filmes... chamo a atenção para o facto que só fez o levantamento, não estableceu a credibilidade dos mesmos (na maior parte dos casos foram mesmo os tribunais ou organismos governamentais quem colocou em causa a veracidade dos ditos "filmes")...

pelos vistos para os "amiguinhos dos animais" vale tudo para passarem o ponto de vista deles...

http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsC7.htm

Só sobre o filme chinês dos texugos
http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsF08q.htm

[Nicole]

Nunca vi filmes sobre a questão das peles. Vi uma vez uma apresentação em powerpoint sobre a matança - à paulada - das focas bebés no Canadá (e não, a apresentação não foi feita pela Peta). É incompreensível como é que a questão das focas bebés ainda não está resolvida. Não sei do que é que o governo canadiano está à espera para mudar esta situação.
De qualquer modo não concordo com a morte de animais somente com o objectivo de lhes serem retiradas as peles. Para mim não faz qualquer sentido.

[casadiscaes]

Mas tem a certeza que não está? desde 1976 até 2000 só os índios Inuit é que podiam matar as focas brancas (focas bébés)... desde 2000 que o seu abate é proibido... se procurar bem aqui no forum vai encontrar um tópico meu sobre esse tema... outra coisa é a ideia que lhe vendem sobre o abate... mas isso...

[Nicole]

Tenho quase a certeza de que a matança das focas bebés no Canadá ainda existe. Aliás, a primeira vez em que ouvi falar disto foi na Sic Notícias há menos de dois anos, por volta de Maio. A notícia era exactamente sobre o início da caça das focas bebés no Canadá. Fui à internet e...

"Canada's annual seal hunt has begun, amid international appeals for an end to the controversial cull.
Up to 325,000 young harp seal pups could be killed in the coming weeks.

Celebrities such as former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney and his wife have joined animal rights groups in condemning the cull as barbaric and unnecessary.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Canada was victim of an "international propaganda campaign", and insisted the cull would be carried out humanely.

The cull, which reportedly earns C$16.5m (£8.3m) in meat and pelt sales, is an important source of income for fishing communities in Quebec and Newfoundland that have been hit hard by dwindling fish stocks in the Atlantic.

The hunt is "an annual harvest and it is based on economics... It is harvesting animals on a sustainable basis", Roger Simone of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans told the BBC.

The Canadian government says the cull is also necessary to control seal numbers, saying the seal population is now almost six million, nearly triple the level of the 1970s.

It recently increased the total allowable catch by 5,000, to 325,000 seals."

In http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4844008.stm

[LuMaria]

Ainda há pouco tempo vi um programa da National Geographic com data de 2006 que focava precisamente isso. Horrivel

[Nicole]

outra coisa é a ideia que lhe vendem sobre o abate... mas isso...

O problema das peles não é o abate. O problema é saber se existe a necessidade de matar um animal, por mais humano que o abate seja, apenas com o objectivo de se tirar ou aproveitar a pele. E já sei que vamos começar com a conversa do costume: se o animal não usufruísse dos cuidados que lhe são prestados durante o seu desenvolvimento/crescimento se calhar não chegaria à idade adulta.

[casadiscaes]

Pois a resposta do governo canadiano é:

ATLANTIC CANADA SEAL HUNT
MYTHS AND REALITIES

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Myth #1: The Canadian government allows sealers to kill whitecoat seals.
Reality: The image of the whitecoat harp seal is used prominently by seal hunt opponents. This image gives the false impression that vulnerable seal pups are targeted by sealers during the commercial hunt.

The hunting of harp seal pups (whitecoats) and hooded seal pups (bluebacks) is illegal – and has been since 1987. Marine Mammal Regulations prohibit the trade, sale or barter of the fur of these pups. Furthermore, adult seals cannot be harvested when they are in breeding or birthing grounds and younger seals must be weaned, self-reliant and independent.

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Myth #2: Seals are being skinned alive.
Reality: A 2002 independent veterinarians’ report published in the Canadian Veterinary Journal and numerous reports mentioned by the Malouf Commission (1987) indicate that this is not true.

Sometimes a seal may appear to be moving after it has been killed; however seals have a swimming reflex that is active – even after death. This reflex gives the false impression that the animal is still alive when it is clearly dead – similar to the reflex in chickens.


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Myth #3: The club – or hakapik – is a barbaric and inhumane tool that has no place in today’s world.
Reality: Hunting methods were studied by the Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing in Canada and it found that the clubbing of seals, when properly performed, is at least as humane as, and often more humane than, the killing methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, which are accepted by the majority of the public.

Clubs have been used by sealers since the onset of the hunt hundreds of years ago. Hakapiks originated with Norwegian sealers who found it very effective. A 2002 report published in the Canadian Veterinary Journal found that the club or hakapik is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely.


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Myth #4: The Canadian government is allowing sealers to kill thousands of seals to help with the recovery of cod stocks.
Reality: Several factors have contributed to the lack of recovery of Atlantic cod stocks, such as fishing effort, poor growth and physical condition of the fish, and environmental changes.

In addition, there are many uncertainties in the estimates of the amount of fish consumed by seals. The commercial quota is established on sound conservation principles, not an attempt to assist in the recovery of groundfish stocks.


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Myth #5: The hunt is unsustainable and is endangering the harp seal population.
Reality: Since the 1960s, environmental groups have been saying the seal hunt is unsustainable. In fact, the harp seal population is healthy and abundant. According to a 2004 survey, the Northwest Atlantic harp seal population is now estimated at approximately 5.8 million animals, nearly triple what it was in the 1970s.

DFO sets quotas at levels that ensure the health and abundance of seal herds. In no way are seals - and harp seals in particular – an “endangered species”.


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Myth #6: The seal hunt provides such low economic return for sealers that it is not an economically viable industry.
Reality: The 2006 seal hunt was one of the most profitable in memory. Given favourable market conditions in 2006, the landed value of the harp seal hunt exceeded $30 million. The average price per pelt received by sealers was close to $100, more than a 75% increase over the 2005 average value.

Seals are a significant source of income for some individual sealers and for thousands of families in Eastern Canada at a time of year when other fishing options are limited at best, in many remote, coastal communities. Sealing also creates employment opportunities for buying and processing plants.


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Myth #7: Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) provides subsidies for the seal hunt.
Reality: DFO does not subsidize the seal hunt. Sealing is an economically viable industry. All subsidies ceased in 2001. Even before that time, any subsidies provided were for market and product development, including a meat subsidy, to encourage full use of the seal. In fact, government has provided much less subsidization to the sealing industry than recommended by the Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing.


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Myth #8: The seal hunt is loosely monitored and DFO doesn’t punish illegal hunting activity or practices.
Reality: The seal hunt is closely monitored and tightly regulated. Fishery Officers conduct surveillance of the hunt by means of aerial patrols, surface (vessel) patrols, dockside inspections of vessels at landing sites and inspections at buying and processing facilities.

Infractions are taken seriously and sealers who fail to comply with Canada’s Marine Mammal Regulations are penalized. The consequences of such illegal actions could include court-imposed fines and the forfeiting of catches, fishing gear, vessels and licences.


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Myth #9: The majority of Canadians are opposed to the seal hunt.
Reality: Animal rights groups currently campaigning against the seal hunt cite a 2004 Ipsos‑Reid poll stating that the majority of Canadians are opposed to the hunt. In fact, Canadians support federal policies regarding the seal hunt. An Ipsos-Reid survey conducted in February 2005 concluded that 60% of Canadians are in favour of a responsible hunt.

in http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque/myth_e.htm

[leonildecarvalho]

É curioso como eu adorei esta parte :
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/Copyright/copyright_e.htm

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(a) the Acts as passed by Parliament, which are published in the "Assented to" Acts service, Part III of the Canada Gazette and the annual Statutes of Canada, and
(b) the regulations, as registered by the Clerk of the Privy Council and published in Part II of the Canada Gazette.
The above-mentioned publications are available in most public libraries.

Leo

[casadiscaes]

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em http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/Copyright/copyright_e.htm#6

o que me parece lógico se usam fontes externas... mas parecem ser também a fonte mais credivel, não acha?